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  • Mar. 7th, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Kara Thrace of South Park
Instant reaction:

"There's a hole in the Bucket"  Ya think ??

So while I'll give the thumbs up for the episode as a whole, I am really really unhappy with the state of Kara-ships.

Galactica being scuttled.  But while I 'm annoyed at that, I'm uneasy with the state of Kara.  

Without having seen anyone else's reaction, I can't make up my mind whether that was the death or the cementing of either of Kara's ships.  I cheered when LEE STEPS UP and searches for Kara after Baltar outs her.  But for all that affirmation (and man, he made her smile that brilliant SMILE), where was the embrace (kiss or hug)?  I screamed at Lee to go back!   Then her words to Sam:  I wished for you to be Sam.  Just My Sam;  BUT then that  squee was also ruined with "I've come to accept you're no longer Sammy."  My heart broke to pieces.  Is she mourning?  Its good/bad/confused to be multi-shipper!

So Galactica's to be abandoned.  Unless Anders becomes Galactica's Hybrid.  And while I prefer that to him being dead, I can't say I approve with this twist.  At least not yet.  I dunno; maybe I'll feel different tomorrow.  I sure hope y'all will have positive spins on this cause I'm feeling mighty unsure right now.  I'll need to watch it again (after I sleep).

Other unhappy developments: The Council of Captains <<< so much worse Quorum.  Lee was supposed to take the shirt off, not put the jacket back on.  Why did Dee ruin a perfect K/L moment by being there?  (Also, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have wanted to go up where Kara was or even next to Kat).  Dr. Scientist ruins his brief appearance by backstabbing my girl.  Laura's out for the count.  Why was there no Reckoning for Tyrol (and for that matter Tory up to now)?  And that new wall!paint scene --- not as sexy as Kara's  :(   

But I did like the episode.  I can see a resolution of sorts in sight (with probable SPACE PORN).  The Opera House approaches!  The Colony (ant farm more like) revealed!  And Kara is closer to the 'truth' than ever?  Even the two crews are learning to live with each other, esp since the Cylons seem to have given up the idea of running away.  I'm starting to hope (JUST SPEC) despite all the pits, the human race's gonna survive. 

On the bright side, Boomer found a new shiny!  Let's hope Hera's successful in unleashing her massive powers of perfect curls on Valerii - cause I have a feeling Cavil's immune.  And wait, Cylons have chocolate!  What better incentive for the Fleet to go find Hera?  This somehow makes more sense to me than The Fleet not having toothpaste.  And Laura did have a secret stash - which she shared!  And LOVED (then hated) the Memorial Hall scene (but only before Lee left her).  And also the "just my sam" (but before she plugs him back).  I even loved that Bill just waved the whole DESTINY thang yet again.  And that ONLY Laura and Kara respectively can change the agnostic Bill's and Lee's minds about this.

Of course, the questions remains:  What is Kara Thrace?  Is Daniel=Dreilide?  Where does Caprica and Ellen bunk?  Why are Leobens not integrating? Hasn't Ishay been outed as ruining Sam's operation and Caprica's fetus (I'm obsessed with this improbable tangent).  Who is the true dying leader?  Can Hybrids have sex? Will we see Gods/God?  Where's the tabloid press when you need them???

Comments

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[info]daybreak777 wrote:
Mar. 7th, 2009 08:43 pm (UTC)
and man, he made her smile that brilliant SMILE
Dude, I need an icon of that super-quick! So lovely, that smile was almost worth the entire ep to me. I just want Kara to have some peace. It's all I ever wanted for her.

About Sammy. I don't know either. On one hand, he was always so full of life that this seems so wrong. On the other hand, he seemed so invested in his Cylon heritage the last time we saw him lucid. He seemed to need that, it gave him purpose. Maybe he'd want this rather than die. I wish we knew what he wanted.

Let's hope Hera's successful in unleashing her massive powers of perfect curls on Valerii - cause I have a feeling Cavil's immune.
Hee! She was cute jumping in the projection bedroom. I think Cavil is totally immune, though.

As for all the questions, do you think you'll really get satisfying answers to them all? I think some will be left in the air. But maybe!
[info]artemis_90 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
out Sammy. I don't know either. On one hand, he was always so full of life that this seems so wrong. On the other hand, he seemed so invested in his Cylon heritage the last time we saw him lucid. He seemed to need that, it gave him purpose. Maybe he'd want this rather than die. I wish we knew what he wanted.

I know. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be in mourning for Sam or not. Certainly in the goo tub, his voice changed so there weren't a single warm inflection in his voice - and that's just soooo sad. And would Sam have wanted to be hooked up like that-- he was invested in giving the information to the others, but I'm not to sure he was proud of his Cylon links as Tory or Chief. I wonder if he knew the purpose of it all though and had information of the future?

As for answers --- I guess specs are just as fun. Any guesses? After two weeks there will be no more specs...

[info]daybreak777 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 04:04 pm (UTC)
Interesting idea about whether Sam knew the future. Who knows? I hope we do get a bit more on him.

I'm not good at speculating! I know what little I want. Kara and Lee to have their 'moment'. More on the Opera House. Kara and Peace. Lee to live. Someone to mention/think about Felix again. That's all I want and I'm almost afraid to say that much or I'll jinx it. ;-) Whether I'll get these things? Who knows?

What about you?
[info]artemis_90 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
Heh, what I want has nothing to do with the cast, specifically. I like to speculate various scenarios, but I try not to invest in a single one. Usually I feel a certain direction is likely, but the details I will not get invested in. I have a few generic wishlist:

I did not want time travel, and I've been greatly surprised how they haven't succumb to the reset button.

I did not want peace between Humans and Cylons, but I guess I've changed my mind about that. I'm okay with the shaky peace between most humans and half of the cylons now mortal. I'm not sure how humans could forgive the Holocaust in four years (at least 24 years, not four). But I guess survival will trump that timeline.

But I REALLY want to know about the visions (including the Opera House) and prophecies of DESTINY. I want to know if there are Gods/God, like for sure and why they interfere or don't interfere. BSG is one of the few shows that can get away with treating religion as a real physical force, without getting preachy, so I want to see how they deal with that arc.

Lastly, I want original SPACE PORN. Considering how they seem to be scrimping all the VFX and SPX since Revelations, I am hoping that it was all saved for the finale.
[info]daybreak777 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 04:33 pm (UTC)
I will have fun coming back to everyone's wish lists in a few weeks!

And yes to SPACE PORN!
[info]latteaddict wrote:
Mar. 8th, 2009 01:24 am (UTC)
I can't make up my mind whether that was the death or the cementing of either of Kara's ships.

I wasn't sure either what the scene meant for K/L...I said pretty the same thing...

Lee and Kara's interaction was definitely filled with love. A pure love. Lee was just so earnest and Kara looked at him the entire time with utter sweetness and adoration. But there's still something missing, a space between them still. One of them really needs to make a decisive move or else they'll stay in that stasis bubble forever
[info]artemis_90 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 02:53 pm (UTC)
But there's still something missing

LUST???

I mean, I guess pure love beats all... and high-brow courtly love would be in-character with Lee, but, c'mon some skin would be nice (for us fans).
[info]frolicndetour wrote:
Mar. 8th, 2009 03:03 pm (UTC)
Its good/bad/confused to be multi-shipper!

Seriously. I was actually glad that Lee didn't kiss her - though he was clearly thinking about it - t was too soon for Kara. (And ME.) As for Sam... I really don't want him to end up this way. :/ My positive spin is that I don't think he will. Even if they kill him, I'm counting on at least a moment of lucidity before the end.

Let's hope Hera's successful in unleashing her massive powers of perfect curls on Valerii - cause I have a feeling Cavil's immune.

LOL. I was pretty sure she was projecting the cupcake, which I thought was the cutest thing ever in the history of this show.

Aw, poor Dee. Managing to piss of the shippers even in death? ;)
[info]raincitygirl wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 01:32 am (UTC)
Oh hell yes, it was a cupcake. When they were in the Raptor and we saw it in Boomer's hand it was something dark and vaguely unappetising-looking, like a protein bar or something. And inside the projection, magically turned into a vanilla cupcake. Mealtimes in the Agathon household must be easier than in most households with small children. The algae may not taste good, but rather than spit it out or throw it at her parents, she can just imagine it as a vanilla cupcake and gobble it down.

I too am fine with no kiss. It would've been, as you say, too soon.
[info]artemis_90 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
Ah, I thought it looked like chocolate. (The protein bar.) Hmmm, I guess the Chief found his Chocolate Sundae Planet in a way.
[info]frolicndetour wrote:
Mar. 10th, 2009 04:14 am (UTC)
As if there was ever any doubt, this proves that occasional deep-freezings aside, the Agathons are the best parents ever. Clearly they must have gone to extraordinary efforts so that Hera has the vanilla cupcake prototype to begin with.
[info]raincitygirl wrote:
Mar. 10th, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
I actually have a theory (okay, a hypothesis) about the cupcake. I developed it during the commercials after I saw the cupcake. Remember when Hera #1 had those possibly life-threatening tummy problems around the time of her (lemme think about it and count up) third kidnapping? Methinks that the Cylons don't know a lot about toddler digestive systems, and perhaps let her eat all the cupcakes and ice cream and cheeseburgers she wanted. And then after the third kidnapping, Hera #1's tummy problems were magically resolved. Maybe Cottle took one look at her and grumbled, "Oh, they can resurrect their dead bodies, but they've never heard of castor oil. Geniuses." But the vanilla cupcakes made a lasting impression and now Hera #3 is projecting them. Like I said, I need something to think about during the commercials.

I wonder if Heras #1 and #2 could project also. It might explain their look of glazed boredom in many scenes, because they're a million miles away. Well, technically I suspect the glazed boredom was the little "actresses" looking for Mommy or grumbling internally because the scene needs to be reshot just because they were picking their nose. Hera #2 was cute as a button (as was Hera #1, although the poor baby's terminal gloominess offset some of the cuteness), but it's awfully fun to suddenly have a kid in the part who actually *interacts* with the adults on a consistent basis. I totally need an updated icon. Possibly featuring the vanilla cupcake prototype.

And yes, Mommy and Daddy Agathon are good parents, and they DAMN well get their kid back by the end of the show. Are you listening, Boomer? Time to switch sides yet again, kill Cavil, and rescue your niece. She's going to be your new "something shiny" and she's going to stay shiny until you deliver her back home. And both her parents damn well better be alive for the reunion. If there is a rocks fall, everybody dies type of ending, I will fly down to L.A. and do something horrible to Moore. That family has already been through enough, and while I realise this is BSG and nobody gets a truly happy ending, they'd better get a semi-happy one with Mommy and Daddy in couples' counselling to work out their Jerry Springer-esque marital issues and Hera doing art therapy by drawing vanilla cupcakes instead of Head!Sixes and star maps.
[info]artemis_90 wrote:
Mar. 11th, 2009 03:23 am (UTC)
I LOVE LOVE this cupcake/digestive/boredom/prototype theory! Hey, it may be hilarious, BUT it so fits canon perfectly!

More cupcakes please!
[info]artemis_90 wrote:
Mar. 9th, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC)
As for Sam... I really don't want him to end up this way. :/
Oh gods, me neither! But, well IF KARA and the other Cylons have started using the past tense... :((

My positive spin is that I don't think he will. Even if they kill him, I'm counting on at least a moment of lucidity before the end. I hope so. I mean I miss Anders already... that voice and body in the tub (why isn't it gooey?) isn't the warm and supportive husband anymore. I'd love to see 'Sammy' again.
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